different between discus vs converse

English

Etymology

1656. From Latin discus, from Ancient Greek ?????? (dískos, “disk, quoit, platter”). Doublet of dais, desk, disc, dish, and disk.

Pronunciation

• (UK, US) IPA^(key): /?d?s.k?s/
• Rhymes: -?sk?s

Noun

discus (plural discuses)

1. A round plate-like object that is thrown for sport.
   • 2004, Frank Fitzpatrick, "The amazing story of the first discus medal winner", The Philadelphia Inquirer, August 18,

     He [Robert Garrett] won even though he hadn't ever touched a real discus until just before the event was held.

   • 2008, John Branch, "Estonia's Kanter Celebrates Gold Medal in the Discus His Way", The New York Times, August 23,

     [Gerd] Kanter had agreed to demonstrate his throwing skill on Friday, but rather than bringing his own discuses—he usually travels with about five of them, […]

2. (uncountable) The athletics sport of discus throwing.
   • 2008, "Weir lays down marker in Beijing", BBC, September 8,

     And Chris Martin took a silver medal in the discus on the opening day in the Bird's Nest, […]

3. (plural: discus) A discus fish (genus Symphysodon)
   • 2008, Carol Roberts, "History of Discus", North American Discus Association,

     The main body of the Amazon River is too fast, too deep, and too silt laden for discus.

4. (rare, dated) A chakram.
   • 1893, Krishna-Swaipayana Vyasa, translated by K. M. Ganguli, The Mahabharata, Adi Parva, Section XIX,

     And Narayana instantly cut off with his discus the well-adorned head of the Danava who was drinking the Amrita without permission.

   • 1899, Thomas William Rhys Davids (transl.), Digha Nikaya, "Sàmañña-Phàla Sutta",

     If with a discus with an edge sharp as a razor he should make all the living creatures on the earth one heap, one mass, of flesh, […]

Usage notes

• Although an alternative Latinate plural disci is often cited, it is hardly ever used in practice.

Synonyms

• (round plate): quoit

Derived terms

• discus fish
• discus throw
• discus thrower

Translations

Dutch

Etymology

Borrowed from Latin discus, from Ancient Greek ?????? (dískos). First attested in the eighteenth century.

Pronunciation

• IPA^(key): /?d?sk?s/
• Hyphenation: dis?cus
• Rhymes: -?sk?s

Noun

discus m (plural discussen, diminutive discusje n)

1. discus

   Synonym: werpschijf

Derived terms

• discuswerpen

Related terms

• dis
• disc
• diskette

Descendants

• ? Indonesian: diskus

Latin

Etymology

Borrowed from Ancient Greek ?????? (dískos).

Pronunciation

• (Classical) IPA^(key): /?dis.kus/, [?d??s?k?s?]
• (Ecclesiastical) IPA^(key): /?dis.kus/, [?d?iskus]

Noun

discus m (genitive disc?); second declension

1. a discus, quoit
2. a dish shaped like a discus
3. disc of a sundial

Declension

Second-declension noun.

Descendants

• Old French: deis, dois
  • French: dais
  • ? Middle English: deis
    • English: dais
    • Scots: deas, deece
• Old Italian: desco
  • Italian: desco
  • ? Medieval Latin: desca
    • ? Middle English: deske, desque
      • English: desk
        • ? Irish: deasc
        • ? Welsh: desg
      • Scots: dask
• Old Occitan: [Term?]
  • Occitan: des
• Old Spanish: [Term?]
  • Spanish: desca, desga
• ? Albanian: dhisk
• ? Albanian: dishkë
  • Albanian: dishtë
• ? Asturian: discu
• ? Catalan: disc
• ? Danish: diskos
• ? Dutch: discus
• ? French: disque
  • ? English: disc
  • ? Norman: disque
  • ? Persian: ????? (disk)
  • ? Romanian: disc
• ? English: discus
• ? Galician: disco
• ? West Germanic: *disk (see there for further descendants)
• ? Hebrew: ??????????? (dískus)
• ? Italian: disco
• ? Portuguese: disco
• ? Spanish: disco
  • ? Basque: disko
• ? Swedish: diskus

References

• discus in Charlton T. Lewis and Charles Short (1879) A Latin Dictionary, Oxford: Clarendon Press
• discus in Charlton T. Lewis (1891) An Elementary Latin Dictionary, New York: Harper & Brothers
• discus in Charles du Fresne du Cange’s Glossarium Mediæ et Infimæ Latinitatis (augmented edition, 1883–1887)
• discus in Gaffiot, Félix (1934) Dictionnaire illustré Latin-Français, Hachette
• discus in Harry Thurston Peck, editor (1898) Harper's Dictionary of Classical Antiquities, New York: Harper & Brothers
• discus in William Smith et al., editor (1890) A Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities, London: William Wayte. G. E. Marindin

English

Etymology 1

From Old French converser, from Latin conversor (“live, have dealings with”)

Pronunciation

• (Received Pronunciation) IPA^(key): /k?n?v??s/
• (US) enPR: k?nvûrs', IPA^(key): /k?n?v?s/
• Rhymes: -??(?)s

Verb

converse (third-person singular simple present converses, present participle conversing, simple past and past participle conversed)

1. (formal, intransitive) to talk; to engage in conversation
   • 1695, John Dryden (translator), Observations on the Art of Painting by Charles Alphonse du Fresnoy

     We had conversed so often on that subject.

2. to keep company; to hold intimate intercourse; to commune; followed by with
   • 1727, James Thomson, Summer

     To seek the distant hills, and there converse
     With nature.

   • 1814, William Wordsworth, The Excursion

     But to converse with heaven — This is not easy.

3. (obsolete) to have knowledge of (a thing), from long intercourse or study
   • 1689-1690, John Locke, An Essay Concerning Human Understanding Book II

     according as the objects they converse with afford greater or less variety

Derived terms

• conversation

Translations

Noun

converse

2. (now literary) free verbal interchange of thoughts or views; conversation; chat.
   • 1728, Edward Young, Love of Fame, the Universal Passion, Satire V, On Women, lines 44-46:

     Twice ere the sun descends, with zeal inspir'd, / From the vain converse of the world retir'd, / She reads the psalms and chapters for the day […]

   • 1919, Saki, ‘The Disappearance of Crispina Umerleigh’, The Toys of Peace, Penguin 2000 (Complete Short Stories), p. 405:

     In a first-class carriage of a train speeding Balkanward across the flat, green Hungarian plain, two Britons sat in friendly, fitful converse.

Etymology 2

From Latin conversus (“turned around”), past participle of converto (“turn about”)

Pronunciation

• (Received Pronunciation) IPA^(key): /?k?nv??s/
• (US) enPR: k?n'vûrs, IPA^(key): /?k?nv?s/

Adjective

converse (not comparable)

1. opposite; reversed in order or relation; reciprocal

Noun

converse (plural converses)

1. the opposite or reverse
2. (logic) of a proposition or theorem of the form: given that "If A is true, then B is true", then "If B is true, then A is true."
   equivalently: given that "All Xs are Ys", then "All Ys are Xs".

   All trees are plants, but the converse, that all plants are trees, is not true.

4. (semantics) one of a pair of terms that name or describe a relationship from opposite perspectives; converse antonym; relational antonym

Derived terms

• conversely

Translations

Anagrams

• Cervones, conserve, coveners, encovers

French

Pronunciation

Adjective

converse f sg

1. feminine singular of convers

Verb

converse

1. first-person singular present indicative of converser
2. third-person singular present indicative of converser
3. first-person singular present subjunctive of converser
4. third-person singular present subjunctive of converser
5. second-person singular imperative of converser

Italian

Alternative forms

• convergé (rare)

Verb

converse

1. third-person singular past historic of convergere

Anagrams

• conserve, scernevo

Latin

Participle

converse

1. vocative masculine singular of conversus

Portuguese

Verb

converse

1. first-person singular (eu) present subjunctive of conversar
2. third-person singular (ele and ela, also used with você and others) present subjunctive of conversar
3. third-person singular (você) affirmative imperative of conversar
4. third-person singular (você) negative imperative of conversar

Spanish

Pronunciation

• IPA^(key): /kom?be?se/, [kõm?be?.se]

Verb

converse

1. Formal second-person singular (usted) imperative form of conversar.
2. First-person singular (yo) present subjunctive form of conversar.
3. Formal second-person singular (usted) present subjunctive form of conversar.
4. Third-person singular (él, ella, also used with usted^?) present subjunctive form of conversar.