different between codswallop vs cobblers

English

Alternative forms

• cod's wallop, cods wallop

Etymology

Unknown, attested from 1959 episode of UK TV series Hancock's Half Hour. The writers (Galton and Simpson) state that the phrase was in general use when the show was broadcast. A national TV appeal in the UK in 2006 failed to find earlier references, though a humorous newspaper column from 1947 does use the fictional name "Sir Aubrey Codswallop". Originally written (1963) codswallop, spelling cod's wallop is later.

Various etymologies are proposed from some sense of cod, such as from cod (“joke, imitation”) +? -s- +? wallop (“beer (slang)”), hence cod + wallop “imitation beer” (with interconsonantal -s- to ease pronunciation of -dw-), or from cod (“scrotum, as in codpiece”) +? -s- +? wallop (“to hit”), hence cod + wallop “testicle bag” or "tbag" or "hit with testicle bag," or from cod (“fish”) (some part of the fish, as from fishing industry).

A frequently given etymology, although widely rejected as a folk etymology, derives it from Hiram Codd, British soft drink maker of the 1870s, known for the eponymous Codd-neck bottle, with the suggestion that codswallop is a derisive term for soft drinks by beer drinkers, from Codd’s + wallop (“beer (slang)”) “Codd’s beer (sarcastic)”. There is no evidence that early uses had this sense, the slang wallop (“beer”) comes later than Codd’s lifetime, initial spellings (1963 in print) do not reflect such a derivation (*Codd’s wallop and *coddswallop with -dd- are not found), and there is an 80-year gap between proposed coinage and attestation.

This is also the name given to the wooden device placed over the neck of a codd bottle and given a push (wallop) to dislodge the marble in the neck of the bottle. The word has also been used to describe the process of opening a codd bottle.

Pronunciation

• (Received Pronunciation) IPA^(key): /?k?dz?w?l.?p/
• Rhymes: -?l?p
• Hyphenation: cods?wal?lop

Noun

codswallop (uncountable)

1. (Britain, Australia, slang) Senseless talk or writing; nonsense; rubbish.

   Synonyms: see Thesaurus:nonsense

   • 1959 Ray Galton and Alan Simpson, Hancock’s Half Hour,

     Tony: I was not.

     Sidney: Don’t give me that old codswallop. You were counting your money.

   • 1963 October 17, Radio Times, 52/2,

     Just branding a programme as ‘rubbish’, ‘tripe’, or—there are a lot of these—‘codswallop’, gives little indication of what moved the viewer to write.

   • 1981 October 1, John Turner, Review: Autumn Books: Prometheus bounded?, New Scientist, page 41,

     An interviewer from a Warsaw radio station stopped a citizen in the street. Was the recent demonstration necessary? “History will tell.” But what did he think? “I am not a historian.” Likewise Lumsden?s and Wilson?s book. If it is not a load of codswallop, it will turn out to be very important. If it is not a load of codswallop. Faites vos jeux!

   • 1993, J. Neville Turner, The One-Day Game – Cricket or Codswallop?, in 2001, David John Headon, The Best Ever Australian Sports Writing: A 200 Year Collection.

Interjection

codswallop

1. (Britain, slang) Used to express disbelief: nonsense!; rubbish!

   Synonym: hogswallop

Translations

Further reading

• Michael Quinion (1996–2021) , “Codswallop”, in World Wide Words
• Douglas Harper (2001–2021) , “codswallop”, in Online Etymology Dictionary

References

English

Etymology

Shortened from cobbler’s awls, for balls (testicles or nonsense)[1]

Noun

cobblers

1. plural of cobbler
2. (Cockney rhyming slang) testicles.

   Then she only goes and kicks me right in me cobblers, don’t she!

3. (Cockney rhyming slang) Nonsense.

   Stop talking cobblers. Load of old cobblers

Synonyms

• (testicles): see Thesaurus:testicles
• (nonsense): see Thesaurus:nonsense

Further reading

• “Cobblers”, World Wide Words, Michael Quinion

Anagrams

• clobbers, scrobble